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  1. fallenpalette/thinkingwithang says:

I agree and can relate to your argument about injustice leading to insecurities. Injustice can be a factor of many things, however, I never thought to associate it with insecurity. It is true that things such as discrimination and identity issues are linked to injustice. I wish your friend the strength to push through that threshold and live the life he deserves!

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2. fallenpalette/thinkingwithang says:

I am happy for you that in the end you have found a middle-ground that works for you. One-sided injustices are absolutely appalling and does create a lot of stress, as you mentioned it did for you, and I could only imagine. Feeling powerless is the last thing anybody wants to feel.

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3. fallenpalette

I concur with you that although Clifford’s stance maybe a little far-fetched compared to James, in the sense that whether or not a belief is right or wrong is going to stop someone from holding that belief, Clifford’s argument is still valid, because his premises are valid. The two have different stances, but valid and sound premises which make their thesis’ supportable.

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4. fallenpalette/thinkingwithang says:

I also stand more with James than Clifford, like you. Even though I can see where both authors arguments are supported, I have the same thoughts that some beliefs just don’t have evidence and they can still be a belief. A belief doesn’t necessarily have to be backed up by evidence, a belief can just be based solely on independent inner feelings, even if no one else supports it.

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5. fallenpalette/thinkingwithang says:

I totally agree with you when you say deception comes from ourselves. As I was reading Plato’s “Allegory of the Cave,” I also thought about romance movies and how they often give a lot of people hope, and can potentially form an unrealistic idea of romance for some people. I know that when I was younger I was very influenced by romance in movies. Now that I’m older, social media is the new thing that really makes Plato’s idea of how media can deceive us, come alive for me. Instagram is the worse form of deception in my opinion as of right now.

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6. fallenpalette

I totally agree with you about Instagram as an example of deception in regards to Plato’s allegory. Instagram didn’t even cross my mind when trying to think of an example, but you are totally right. Instagram is definitely one of the biggest social media platforms right now that is completely deceptive. When Instagram first became popular I barely used it and I never found myself feeling influenced or negative about my life, however, when I began to use it more often I totally felt and feel myself comparing my life to other people’s “perfect” displayed life.

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7. fallenpalette

In the beginning of the movie, as soon as that suspicious guy pulled out his weird skeleton looking gun and shot at Allegra, I already had this feeling that they were already in the game, and the shooting wasn’t really reality but just in the game. However, as the movie progressed and the game kept going on, I found myself questioning if they were in the game still like I thought, or if they were in reality and the shooting actually happened. So, like you said, this movie makes even us the audience get confused between what is real or not in terms of the storyline. This just goes to show how art, depending on its form, can be used to mislead people.

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8. fallenpalette/thinkingwithang says:

I agree with you when you say that knowledge is truth in the terms of Plato, and if that is so then a game cannot be true because it does not contain knowledge. Just like you stated, even within the game, Allegra and Pikul experience feelings of doubt between reality and fiction, and this just explains why a game, or art, is false representation of reality in the hierarchical scheme of Plato’s reality.

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9. fallenpalette/thinkingwithang

I really enjoyed your in class presentation on why you thought this sushi platter is considered art. Tolstoy defines art as sincerity, originality, and clarity. I think some people might not consider a sushi platter to be art, however, based on the image and platter you consider to be art, I have to also agree with you. As the saying goes, we eat first with our eyes, this sushi platter definitely portrays that. Just by looking at the image and the little details you can tell how much sincerity the cook put into it, the originality of it, and it just is so clear that their intentions are to make you feel satisfied even before taking a bite. Thanks for sharing a great piece of art and a good restaurant to try out after this quarantine is over!

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10. fallenpalette/thinkingwithang April 22, 2020 at 9:41 am

Reading Descartes, Meditation 1, definitely felt like a roller coaster ride. Sort of like when you’re on a roller coaster and your eyes are open so you know your definitely alive and on the roller coaster, but then you close your eyes once it gets to the scary part so you feel less like you’re actually many feet off the ground. For me, as I read Meditation 1 it was like you start to believe what Descartes is saying about being sure of his existence but then he refutes that proposition he just made, and in the end you just don’t know what to believe like he says.

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11. fallenpalette

I definitely agree with you that Hume would not view Leonard’s situation as different or an exception. He would view it as more of a reason why identity is just a habit, because his take on identity is all about memories and how we associate ourselves with our memories, so then Leonard’s situation is exactly what Hume is talking about.

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12. fallenpalette/thinkingwithang pm

Good insight. I think it is interesting that you stated you are a prisoner of your desires. I guess in a way although Frankfurt says that free will is having the freedom to act on your desires, you can’t really say you are free either since there is always a reason why you wants to act on some desires and not others. Cause and effect once again. I find Frankfurts levels of desires to be quite fascinating though. It makes you think about your desires and decision making skills in another light.

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13. fallenpalette/thinkingwithangpm

I think Hume’s take on the self leaves a lot of gaps. Although I agree with him that sometimes past memories in our heads doesn’t necessarily mean it is connected to our true self or who we are now, however, as MacIntyre says, we are storytelling animals. There has to be a connection with our past and present.

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14. fallenpalette says:

Very clear breakdown of Frankfurt’s levels of desires. I think it is interesting that he defines a person as having the capability of having 2nd-order desires. That makes me wonder then if humans with physical disabilities who are not capable of these desires not considered persons to him then?

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15. fallenpalette m

I agree that Frankfurt’s view on freedom of the will is a good way to think about having freedom, since Hume says that we do not have free will, which could make us feel like everything in our life is meaningless. But if we think of our desires as free will which influences our actions, although it is still cause and effect, it feels more like we have some sense of control or power in life because we get to choose what we do.

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